July 26, 2007

Money and Law

This is a rather long post…but it might be worth a look anyway.

There are two parts to this post: First, I received a very well thought out and gentle email from a person with a great heart and obvious love for Papa.  The questions raised are important.  The second part of this post is my response.  First the email:

I’ve only just begun to read your book "The Shack" (on the advice of several friends who recommended it very highly and were very much encouraged by it).  So far it’s very good.  

I do have a question for you if you will allow me a moment of your time, as well as the grace to ask this despite the potential of some lacking in eloquence of approach.  I do not intend any of this with a judgmental attitude.  I simply want to understand.  I am often curious why so many authors who claim to have been so deeply touched by God and seek for a way to share it with the world, go down the road of profit seeking with the works they publish.  Please understand bro, I do not mean to suggest with absoluteness that you have any false motive for writing your book and I don’t even necessarily mean "profit seeking" as though it were a strictly negative thing (i.e. greed)…  I am merely asking for your thoughts on this.  I am a writer also (have written many articles and am considering authoring a book in near future as well as some collaborative projects with other friends) and have often felt that to take what God gives me freely out of love and goodness to share with others would be the same as prostituting His gift.  That’s simply how strongly I feel about it.

 I am compelled and encouraged by the fact that Jesus did not charge for His revelations or His service to those He loved, but gave of Himself to others - even unto death.  The apostles, likewise, gave themselves to the body of Christ and the world around them without charge.  No one ever imagines that Paul or any of the other writers of the New Testament sought to profit by the letters they wrote to people and, in fact, I really believe that if they had done that (especially if Jesus had done that) we would not look on their writings the same way today.
 
In the age of technology and, specifically, the Internet - I have often wondered why some authors feel they must sell their book exclusively when it would be just as easy to also offer it freely in electronic format from a website.  I have nothing against offering the option to purchase a hard copy, but why not a freely downloadable copy for those who may not have the finances?  The costs involved in making this possible are virtually insignificant.
 
Again bro, I am simply curious about your perspective on this matter.  I do not mean to judge you one way or the other.  I am still investigating some of these things out myself.  I have close friends; some are musicians, some authors, some with other gifts from God, and each of them give these things away without cost.  That attitude has always encouraged me.  Some of these friends are older in years and are by no means wealthy, but (like Paul) they will not allow anyone to rob them of the joy of sharing God’s gift without charge.  It’s those kind of folks that I want to know what makes them really tick and it’s those kinds of folks that my heart opens far easier to what they have to say.
 
My personal conviction at this point is very much of the feeling that, if what we share is something God has given to us for others, then it diminishes our testimony when we sell it for a price.  Especially if we feel we have to because we need the money…  Then, it seems, we are crossing over into the realm of trying to serve both God and mammon.  When God enlightens my heart with His truth in revelation, my desire is also to share that truth… But I cannot fathom how a person immediately thinks, "how can I sell this information?"  Often times if a person offers that he has something to share with me but there is a price tag attached to it, I am naturally suspect as to how genuinely he even believes what he has written.  If he is genuinely compelled and overwhelmed with the truth God has impacted him with, what is it that motivates him to sell it instead of happily seek for a way to share it freely?
 
Please, if you have time bro, I would love to hear your insights on this matter.  I know you get a lot of mail and the last thing you probably want to have to deal with is someone picking you apart.  Please bro, that really is not my heart here at all.  I simply wish to understand and hear your side on this.  It will help me to process some of the questions I have as to why some believers in Jesus feel the need to charge for the things God gives them to share.  For all I know, your response may be the one that helps me to see another side to the issue than what I have seen generally.                              Thanks so much and God bless you man!!! :)

Did you get the sense of what this dear person wrote?  Great question and one that will surely come up again (and actually has already).  So here is my response back, for your consideration:

"I am not offended in the least by your questions and I appreciate that you would take the time to drop me an email about the things that concern you.  I don’t sense anything negative or judgmental in your inquiry and I think this is a very important conversation.

There are many ways to approach this discussion, so I will throw a bunch of them at you.  First some background, some of which you may already know.  I am the husband of one, the father of 6, live in Gresham, OR in a small rented house, where each small bedroom is shared by two and we have one bathroom.  My office is in the unfinished basement barely visible between hanging laundry and shelves for pantry and boxes of storage.  Kim and I have ( had until one of them just quit this week and cannot be resurrected) two vehicles, the one that is working is one given to us by friends; it was fixed after a major accident.  I am currently borrowing a vehicle from one of my sons and his wife to commute to my work, which is an 8-5 job running a one man office for a manufacturer’s rep (I do everything from inside sales, to inventory management to cleaning the bathroom).  Kim works during the school year in the bakery of the large High School two blocks away from where we live.  I wrote the story for my kids, with no thought of publishing at all and when the opportunity presented itself through a number of unique and God-involved situations, and after prayer and counsel, we (and two friends) borrowed money for the first printing.  At this point I have not received anything financially from the project.  I buy the books, usually by the case, so that I can give them away or charge $10 each, which covers my costs.  I then send the money back to the publisher to buy more books.  If this book takes off like it looks like it will, then there will be lots of new issues that we have to face, but that is just speculation and imagination right now, and if that happens I know God will walk an eventuality out one day at a time.

The presence of the Spirit and the leading of God from the first day of all this has been undeniable.  I am not driven by the money, nor by any sense of worth or identity that might be derived from all this.  I simply live one day at a time listening to Him and watching in amazement at everything that He is doing.  The direction to put this in a printed format (when we had no guarantee that we would re-coup our costs to the printer, the designers, the editors) was at the direction of the Jesus that dwells in us.  We talked about all the things you brought up…using the internet, free downloads etc but that is not how we have been led.  How can that be, you ask?  Frankly, I don’t know.  And that is the first major point about all this.

Life is not about coming up with an ‘ethic’ or set of principles that govern our behavior…not in the Kingdom…it is about a union relationship with an indwelling living person who sees and understands a much bigger picture than our ethics or principles.  As soon as an ethic (of money, for example) is administered, you flirt with legalism.  There is nothing easier than being able to justify a particular legalism based on ‘principle’ or ‘proof-text’ or ‘examples from experience’.  This you can do, apart from God.  The big question that legalism asks constantly is, "How much is enough?"  Where do you draw the line?  God gives you the gift of a healthy body, why do you charge a wage for using it in a job?  Why don’t you simply work for free and trust God to supply all your needs?  Why did Paul not give away the tents instead of selling them?  Do we really see life separated into secular activities (that we can charge a price for) and spiritual activities (that we must not charge a price for)?  So at what point does an ability move from one sphere to another?  So an architect can sell his abilities but the artist cannot?  So we can pay to support the ‘teacher’ (laborer is worthy of his hire) and put that in an ‘okay’ category, but he must not write a song and get paid for that?  Who decides how much to pay to support him?  And who decides what level of pay is proper and spiritual?  Just ask anyone paid for ‘ministry’ about the tyranny of living under the constant judgment of those who pay him or her (what is it okay to spend that money on?).  How much is enough?  When does work become valuable enough to pay for or be compensated?  When does art (that ’should’ be free) become Commercial Art (that ’should’ be paid for)?  How does a intellectual or creative skill differ from a physical one?  Who decides where to draw the line?

Besides creating a huge gulf between ’secular’ and ’spiritual’, legalism (the creation of an ethic that is external based on principles or perceived truths) also give everyone a basis for judging not only the intent and motivation of others, but of oneself, and let me tell you…this is a dead end trap.  I believe you do ‘not’ want to do this (judge others), but you will.  It can’t be helped.  The way you are thinking makes it unavoidable.  Paul, the apostle, understood this better than anyone (I think).  Twice he writes, "I do not judge any man according to the flesh…I do not even judge myself."  He is saying that the thoughts and intents of the heart of so inscrutable and impossible for us to fathom and understand that we will almost always be wrong.  There is no ethic of principle, or ethic of experience that is sufficient to plumb the depths of human motivation and intention.

Let me also say that this plays directly into the personalities and histories of individuals who have a poor sense of their worth or value (I am not intimating any such about you, as I don’t know you).  They may actually be susceptible to the very same trap or bog as the world is; that somehow money equals value.  Jesus never attacked money, but the ‘love’ of it, and both the rich and the poor are susceptible to that, actually anyone that centers the activities of their life around it, whether they have any or have none.  Let me tell you, an ethic of poverty is much more easily justified than an ethic of wealth, but both will lead you to error and divide relationships in the body of Christ.  Job’s issue was never wealth (which God gave him). 

Life is about being filled and led by the Spirit ‘today’…not a system of ethics, rules, principles etc.  God has the ability to speak to my heart and say, "Take your first born son and go to Mt Moriah and offer him as a sacrifice to me" or "Take all that you have, sell it, and give it to the poor" or "Here is your inheritance, go an spend it on whatever you will…I’ll be here with all my wealth waiting for you when you are finished." 

You see, it is not about ethics, not about principles…it is about the Life who indwells us and is leading us ‘today’.  If you or your friends choose to give away certain things that you do or create, and if that leading is because it is what Jesus is saying to you…great!  If not (if it is because of an ethic, or religious persuasion, or you would feel guilty if someone paid you), then it is sin.  If I am a poor brother looking askance at the rich brother next to me, whether I feel superior in my poverty or am wondering why he isn’t helping me out…I do not understand the kingdom that I am part of.  I am no one’s master. 

What does this mean…huge freedom for me.  I am not at the mercy of someone else’s ethic (or especially, of my own), but I can trust the leading of God in my life to participate with him in whatever he is doing.  If today his leading is to give something or everything away, I will give it away, and if when I get to tomorrow his leading is to charge for something, I will charge for it.  Neither action is assumed to be better or more spiritual, but both are obedience.

I hope this makes some sense to you…it is my first attempt at trying to put such a response onto ‘paper’ - as you probably would also, I prefer an on-going conversation.  I would recommend a book by Jacques Ellul called ‘Money and Power’ that was very helpful to me.  It is small but weighty.

In this ‘freedom’ that I live within, will I make mistakes?  Might I mistake the voice of the Spirit for my own subtle need for security (that money seems to promise)?  Will there be people who will make all sorts of judgments about my intent and motives?  Might they be right sometimes?  Is it possible that I could be hearing wrong?  The answer to every on of these questions is ‘of course’.  But that is the wonder of this journey…God and I will work it out one day at a time, with no guilt or condemnation.  I will say this, the mistakes I will experience inside a life of freedom pale in comparison to the mistakes I would make in a life of legalism.

Brother, again I so appreciate you taking the time, but even more the attitude of love and inquiry that permeates your words.  We are in this together, for his glory and his purposes…whatever those might be."

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10 Comments on Money and Law »

July 27, 2007

Rick Gibson @ 6:06 am:

I for one wanted to say thanks for providing a print version of the book. It’s easier on the eyes, and it’s easier to share. I’ve tried sharing pdf books with friends before, and they never seem get around to reading it.

I really liked your response, that is essentially what I hope to learn to do — to follow Papa’s lead, rather than figuring out a couple of rules to live by and never having to actually listen. I feel like a toddler right now, taking a few unsure steps at a time, sometimes grasping at those old things that I used to rely on, but I’m sure in time I will learn to walk free from those things.

Thanks for sharing!

kent @ 11:51 am:

Thank you ‘Willie’

August 6, 2007

wileybones @ 9:34 am:

I so appreciate the freedom and grace in all you’ve shared with your inquiring friend. I continue to process on a statement from the Jake book that Christianity is not about ethics, as it has been so deeply ingrained over my 50-year faith journey. But what you’re sharing here rings of truth. It’s about walking moment-by-moment in a conversational relationship with Papa.

Keep on listening to Him, brother!

August 17, 2007

Brad Mix @ 11:23 pm:

I’ve come to believe the dichotomy Christians have come to live under which identifies certain activities and things as spiritual and others as secular is so life-quenching. As a son of God, anything I do that is not sin is spiritual. It’s because of who is right there beside me, watching and helping. So I think the example of the architect and the artist is right on. Whether a pastor, a singer, a garbage collector, a teacher, an author, if God asked you to do it, it’s a holy calling - it’s spiritual. So my “ordinary” job that God joins me at every day is a spiritual gift - not just a mundane activity to pay the bills. And as we do it well, it makes him smile - just when I see my little son put his heart into helping me clean the garage (which reminds me, it’s gotten totally cluttered lately :-). I’ve grown up hearing that “if you want to do something really significant for God, you’ll go into full-time ministry”. My wonderful, godly grandfather who died a couple years ago at 98 1/2, used to always say, with pride, “I have 10 wonderful grandchildren, and 5 of them are in the ministry.” He never realized what he was saying about those who weren’t.

One struggle I have with William’s response is that when determining whether to charge or not to charge, I don’t have the confidence (and I feel in some ways, audacity)to say, “this is what God told me”…vs, it’s my own heart and voice getting in the way. I’m wrestling now with the idea that it might not make any difference either way, if I’m actually walking hand in hand with Father anyway. If I feel I should give a book away, or work for free or not, whether it’s me or God, who cares? I should just give with no regrets or expectations. Otherwise, I’m always questioning whether it’s me or God, and did I hear or not, etc, which can lead me right back into the dichotomy mentioned above once again - although I might be completely wrong about this, of course.

Thoughts anyone?

December 17, 2007

Lydia @ 3:50 pm:

I feel that it is God who leads us to give and give at the right time.. Seed put on soil not ready will not grow.. But seed put on soil ready will grow and grow and grow and drop new seed. All this to say God is our provider and he provides different things to different people and different times.. and I know I can’t judge who should get 100.00 or who should get 10.00 And Money is soo relitive.. If your called to do something..Then do it. Money is a distraction from so many things.. Long story short.. Don’t get cought up in the Money side. Look at the fruit! And If someone is supposed to read this book, they will be given/ or reicieve a copy from someone else…(or go to the local library)

January 20, 2008

William @ 8:15 am:

Some thoughts…

Unless the Spirit speaks to me audibly, then the way I will hear Him is in my heart and spirit. If this is so, then it will be an act of faith to believe what I am hearing is from Him and it will be an act of faith to obey.

Personally, I’ve found it easier all my life to question the voice inside me and obey the voices around me. It’s certainly easier to justify my actions by pointing to others rather than point to Him. Unfortunately, for me being guided by the voices of many great Christian men around me has really just been an excuse to not have to trust that voice inside me.

The best way I reasoned it was to say that God tells us to seek wise counsel. He does. But He also says it is a fool who listens to it all. And as I’ve learned personally, it’s a fool who only listens to “wise counsel” and uses those voices as a replacement for the voice of the One who lives in us and speaks to us at all times and is in constant relationship with us.

As Paul said, there are times when we will mistake our voice for His. That won’t work out so well for us or Him, but we’ll work it out one day at a time and keep listening. I really like the choice to listen to err on the side of listening to Him rather than live the rest of my life wondering if it is Him speaking to me. In the first option, life is an adventure with many chapters. In the second, I’m forever stuck on chapter one as I wonder who is writing this book.

Michael J. @ 2:39 pm:

Thanks William for the above comment. I know, for me at least, the adventure can be scary to even think about starting. At the end though, I would like to think I took the step no matter how scary it might look. Instead of looking back and wondering about what would have been and ’shoulding’ on myself.

April 7, 2008

Laura S. @ 9:11 pm:

I’ve just finished your book. Thank you for the inspiration you’ve given me to live loved.
Papa, Jesus and Sarayu are as real to me as they can be and I hope I can continue in this “unreal” world being the kind of human Papa wants me to be until the time I can see them “face to face: in the real world. You have changed my prospective of who I am truly meant to be. And I will willingly share this story with every one I am able too.
May God continue to bless you in your life.

May 29, 2008

Bren @ 6:00 pm:

Paul, I know you know that Papa is not poor, but rich in everything. He measures out with a word called Abundance.
My prayer is that you have and will yet experience the abundance of God in you and your family’s life and that while you are experiencing Abundance beyond your greatest imagination, you will also have enough dollars to take care of your family and have a house large enough for every child to have his or her own room, and good cars so you can take this message all over America, and lots of Airline tickets so you will go to the whole wide world. ;)
I love to read your posts and your book. I love this Living Free. Jesus said if we lived in Him and Him in us, we would KNOW truth. You know what Paul, I think you found it. You know what else, I think Papa knew “after you had suffered awhile,” you would be trustworthy not to turn this into the world fame game, but the revelation would always be a cherished gem.

August 28, 2008

Ron @ 9:21 pm:

Boy if you haven’t just gotten that spirit all movin’ and stuff. Thank you for allowing Him to use you as His vehicle to reach me.

I won’t be callin’ Him Papa though as then I see Him as your God. My story is my own as you know.

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